tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17101458.post6535536432229280058..comments2023-10-31T15:14:05.373+00:00Comments on Hagley Road To Ladywood: The LibDems as the 'Tory Dream'?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17101458.post-62024677234768554352010-05-20T20:24:02.213+01:002010-05-20T20:24:02.213+01:00"the Lib Dems have replaced the Tories and BN...<i>"the Lib Dems have replaced the Tories and BNP in your ire-sights and with good reason but let us see how it all turns out before we damn them to high heaven.</i>"<br /><br />Oh you're not kidding. I don't deny that. I got really pissed off with the LibDems. But really really pissed off. I feel betrayed and I still struggle to grasp how a party can campaign saying certain things "absolutely" over a whole year and then hours after the election take huge chunks of it back. I generally don't like being taken for a ride. And I've also seen how "dissident" members have been treated since the Coalition was launched, which is straight from the worst school of Stalinist sectarianism.<br /><br />I am going to keep this blog away from politics for the time being (guest posts aside, like this one) as I've had enough of it, personally, and it's getting on my tits.<br /><br />However, Daniel. This bit here:<br /><br />"<i> let us see how it all turns out before we damn them to high heaven</i>".<br /><br />Would you apply it to other areas of political life? Would you have said it about Iraq? About, say, privatising the railway? Introducing IDs? The Poll Tax? Let's see how it turns out first?<br /><br />I thought that the whole nature of politics was centred around debating things. Some will support something and others will oppose it. I don't recall people saying "give Gordon Brown a chance (exclamation mark)" back in June 2007. Why the kid gloves with the Lib Dems?claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11498799178450479883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17101458.post-37035355783190153982010-05-20T16:47:39.910+01:002010-05-20T16:47:39.910+01:00I am slightly with Anita, the Lib Dems have replac...I am slightly with Anita, the Lib Dems have replaced the Tories and BNP in your ire-sights and with good reason but let us see how it all turns out before we damn them to high heaven.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17101458.post-39261906475922291432010-05-20T15:57:57.947+01:002010-05-20T15:57:57.947+01:00What's all this "give'em a chance&quo...What's all this "give'em a chance" business? Knock it off, will you, it's like a broken record.<br /><br />Is anyone stopping them from governing? <br /><br />Shall we abolish freedom to criticise and oppose? Are we not allowed to say that some of the government's announcements are dubious or objectionable?<br /><br />What exactly does "give'em a chance mean"?claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11498799178450479883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17101458.post-59029567444677867552010-05-20T10:37:44.065+01:002010-05-20T10:37:44.065+01:00It's a pity that this blog has turned into a g...It's a pity that this blog has turned into a game of chucking bucketloads of shit at the LibDems. <br /><br />Just give them a chance! How long have they been in government? Days? A week?<br />Too much cynicism takes you nowhere.Anitahttp://www.londonist.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17101458.post-45003877878227151112010-05-20T07:24:06.734+01:002010-05-20T07:24:06.734+01:00Hate to admit it but you're right. A straightf...Hate to admit it but you're right. A straightforward tax cut which goes some way to reducing the poverty trap and start to remove the anomaly of people who pay tax on their income but are wholly dependent on the state is something I would like to have seen in the Tory manifesto to begin with. We'd have won an overall majority without doubt if we had run with it first. The graphs on the other blog are misleading because it doesn't describe the percentage impact of the tax cut on incomes and also ignores the dynamic impact of allowing lower earners to keep more of what they earn from working more.<br /><br />The Tories are over 80% of this coalition. It's hardly surprising that the policies of the Lib Dems that are unpalatable to grass-root Tories (such as mansion tax) failed to survive the chop.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18020757579092579521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17101458.post-45358354062317112882010-05-19T20:06:16.851+01:002010-05-19T20:06:16.851+01:00But, to me – it looks as though the LibDems are tr...<i>But, to me – it looks as though the LibDems are trying to change their spots too quickly. Or were they ever that against the ‘Big Society’ in the first place?</i><br /><br />Exactly my view. <br />I don't wanna rub it in and say that too many people were blind to the bleeding obvious, as I'm not at all surprised the LibDems turned out to be what they were all along.<br />But, yeah, the change of heart on too many things has just been so quick it's impossible not to question what the LDs stood for in the first place.Stan Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08877204795536395407noreply@blogger.com